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    <title type="text">PAL Forums</title>
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    <updated>2008-12-03T14:31:12Z</updated>
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      <title>Giving Away The Farm &#45; Source Materials are not &#8220;free&#8221;</title>
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      <published>2008-12-03T13:51:01Z</published>
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        <p>The simple reality is that clients who are given source files as a &#8220;bonus&#8221; can and, often times, will take your source files to another less expensive vendor to complete the work.&nbsp; It isn&#8217;t as though clients have limited options.&nbsp; You have done all the groundwork and &#8220;created&#8221; the process for someone else to finish more cheaply. </p>

<p>The result of your generosity is that it allows a less capable designer to take on a new project without having to do ANY of the conceptual work or product development.&nbsp; Then, in addition to getting to bill the client for work they didn&#8217;t create, they also get to learn how to do the work from your source files.</p>
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    <entry>
      <title>Have arts organizations lost their relevance&#63;</title>
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      <published>2008-12-04T09:37:53Z</published>
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        <p>What purpose does an arts organization serve if it will only &#8220;help&#8221; as long as you are sending them cash?</p>
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      <title>A question!:&amp;nbsp; I took a few pictures 25 years ago.</title>
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      <published>2008-10-31T05:41:18Z</published>
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        <p>Hey, your website is great.&nbsp; As a screenwriter, the whole work for hire thing drives me nuts.</p>

<p>Here&#8217;s a question I hope you can answer.&nbsp; 25 years ago, when I was in high school, I took a few photos of my teacher for the school paper.</p>

<p>I don&#8217;t honestly remember if it was for class credit or not and I never signed an agreement saying the photos were a work for hire.</p>

<p>Nevertheless, could the school lay a claim to the photos as being a work for hire, since I was a student working for a publicly funded paper?</p>

<p>And does the paper require me to grant them a license to give my photos to a third party for them to exploit?</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p><b>[question submitted directly to the editor on October 31, 2008]</b></p>
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    <entry>
      <title>How to Recognize Spec Work</title>
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      <published>2008-07-24T13:44:20Z</published>
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        <p>We recently received an inquiry from a large company who was prospecting for a local design studio to help with a big project. The project involved branding, a big marketing campaign, a web site redesign, and presentation materials. Upon meeting with the &#8220;former&#8221; agency owner who was heading up the project, we listened to his sales pitch.</p>

<p>• &#8220;We are looking for a small local shop to partner with for the long term&#8221;.<br />
• &#8220;We are very loyal once we select a design partner&#8221;.<br />
• &#8220;We pay our bills on time.&#8220;</p>

<p>After the sirens in our heads quieted down, we talked about the project and hashed out a preliminary working arrangement.&nbsp; The final &#8220;red flag&#8221; came in the form of their expectations: We would be <i>&#8220;submitting concepts in order for them to choose the local firm who would head up the creative effort&#8221;. </i> </p>

<p>Instead, we submitted a detailed proposal with an NDA. Wouldn&#8217;t you know, they never returned our calls.</p>

<p>Concepts are 90% of the work in any creative project.&nbsp; It was obvious that this company was looking for a sucker(s) to do the hard work for them and then bail on their agreement. Moral of the story is ... If you can&#8217;t get an agreement in writing,&nbsp; the job doesn&#8217;t really exist.</p>
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    <entry>
      <title>Welcome to PAL&#8217;s Forums</title>
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      <published>2008-06-23T21:37:31Z</published>
      <updated>2008-06-23T22:22:26Z</updated>
      <author><name>Editor</name></author>
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        <p>This site has been in development a long time and all the while we have had one overarching goal in mind.&nbsp; We wanted to create a place for students, hobbyists, educators, businessmen, vendors, and professionals from every nook and cranny of the creative industry to discuss issues that affect our livelihoods. </p>

<p>We think we have a darned good start but we still have a lot of work to do to expand the resources and usefulness of PAL. </p>

<p>If you like what you see we&#8217;d love for you to consider becoming regular participants.</p>

<p>Cheers,<br />
Paul<br />
PAL&#8217;s Editor-in-Chief</p>
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